Let’s discuss the Astral Projection

Explore Astral Projection in this week’s episode — what it is, how to do it, and what to expect (including the scary moments) no one talks about.
Perfect for anyone curious about out-of-body travel, spirituality, and higher consciousness.
 

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Kasia Golda-Phillips

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Hello everyone, welcome back to my podcast. This is Kasia, your host. So, today I wanted to talk about astral projection, which is quite a hot topic these days. So, what is astral projection? Astral projection is an experience where your body, your physical body, and your astral body gets detached. So, let's say you are experiencing um astral projection or out-of-body experience called differently while lying in bed, and then your soul or astral body gets detached from your physical body, and you can, for example, drift to the top and see yourself lying in bed. Also, on more advanced levels, people say that they can go wherever they want, visit any different uh universes or um planes of different existence. Um, also there is um this you can go and talk to the people that passed away, which is um you know it it is incredible for people that are grieving. This is this is incredibly healing experience if you not only can feel that there is something more so you know that this is the death is not the end, but also can actually go and talk to your loved one. So that's astral projection or out of the experience. I will be talking most of the time about astral projection. So why? Why have I chosen this subject? So, like I said at the beginning, it seems to be quite a hot topic these days, and that's interesting because I I know I have known about this for years, like many people. Um, and I don't really I've never been interested until now. What happened for me is someone um the teacher very quite looks like a very known teacher, uh, which is uh uh Jade Shah, uh Jade Shaw, uh I think is the proper way to pronounce her surname. She popped up somewhere for me, and then I started listening, and I was like, wow, this is fascinating. I would love to experience that for myself, even though I am a spiritual person, so the you know, working with people as an energy healer, passive regressor, um tarot reader, or whatever, whatever else I do, um already proves to me that there is something more than just physical body. So I don't necessarily need it to prove it to me, but it would be so amazing to experience what people are talking about. And I must say that I'm talking just to clarify and maybe you already figured that out, I'm talking from the perspective of someone who's still trying to achieve it. I want to talk about it because it seems like um another level of spiritual experience that would be so fantastic to live through. And um, maybe you already heard about it because um this it seems to be more and more popular now to talk about it. Um I even had some you know interviews and everybody's saying, okay, all of this stuff has been known for so long, and now there seems to be an interest toward this way, so there's many people that are trying to achieve it. Um, there's a lot of different um tips online or different courses, so even though I haven't yet managed to have a full out-of-body experience, I will tell you what I think are the best tips, which I think are taking me closest where I think I should still work on, which could be something that could potentially help you because maybe you you should work on the same things. Um, but before we get there, I wanted to also discuss what has been uh part of this um popular conversations now and the CIA report. I won't be going into much detail about it, but um people find it incredible that CIA during Cold War um sent agents for to Monroe Institute, which is the institute that specializes in out-of-body experience from the scientific perspective, um, and they wanted um to teach these agents how to do out-of-body experience for the sake of the espionage. So I think for the part of this, you know, projects during Cold War, I think they were trying a lot of different psychic stuff. Um they were very interested to see if it worked, which is amazing. In that report, they do seem to believe there is something there, but uh you can read it for yourself. Um I heard there was this controversy about one page missing, and um which which was you know obviously uh quite uh suspicious why there's one page missing from the whole report. They found it in the Monroe Institute, uh, it was somewhere hidden. But um when the scientist from Monroe Institute was talking about it, it was slightly less excited. Like, is everybody around that um this kind of this report uh was around for quite a while and it now just got traction. Um, and yeah, that's uh there's been a lot of um CIA has tried a lot of a lot of verses stuff like that, the psychic stuff they try to really get advantage. Um there are also stories about back in the day Hitler trying to work with the dark magic. I I don't know how true it is or not, so it does seem like powers tried before, maybe they're still trying to tap into something extra, extra something spiritual to get the advantage over others, which is not a great way because every on a daily basis, um, normal people like you or or I most of us want to use it for the sake of our own development, and if someone starts using it for spying on other countries, this is when I'm starting to think, wow, there's so many um psychic, um, there's so many psychic spiritual gifts that could be used in a really bad way, which is not great, which I wonder now when I think about it. You know, the earth is going through awakening, and there's more and more people with gifts. So, will there start showing up? People that are starting also using it in a negative way. That's a very scary thought. But let's see, let's see what happens next. Um, so that's that's the that's the controversy. It's there are some more if you want to read in detail, you can find the report online. There are people talking about it, uh, some people are super excited, like it's proving that um CIA even believed in something more that you know astral projection is real, some people are less uh ecstatic, thinking they try different things, um, and different reasons why they're not ecstatic, they just don't think it's as um huge as some people make it to be. I wonder from my perspective, or from the perspective of person who do believe that astral projection is true, so I'm I'm not in any way um doubting that. No, I'm I would love to experience it. Um but I wonder why this hasn't stayed. Or maybe maybe it has, maybe someone can me tell me differently. But if CIA used it before, why is not every country using it? Why aren't they not using it still? Like I said, maybe they are. The quite a known teacher is saying, everybody can experience it, I can also experience it, especially how spiritual a person I am. So I've done crazier things. I don't know if I've done crazier things, but I do crazy things, so that should be fine, and I should be, you know, it should be manageable. Um, so so that's my that these are my thoughts around the astral projections. So I would like to talk now more about tips, advice, or like different methods that I um I listened to or read about. Um so there are there is something called vibrational state. This state um it is when your body feels like the energy, electricity goes through you. Um it can feel for some people it's very intensive. For me, I feel it as a sensation of a little bit of electricity across my whole body. You can also imagine that you're switching it up and it actually works, and it starts feeling um more intensively, and that um is the state that it's supposed to be just before out-of-body experience astral projection. So apparently not everybody has this um has this experience of vibrational state, it's very common most people have it, however, it might be that someone goes straight into astral projection, but um yeah, but but that's just uncommon, but it's still possible. So, how do you get yourself in this vibrational state? I've noticed like something that works for me. So, first you need to the best is to lie down but don't fall asleep. I tend to take a nap just before so I don't fall asleep during this hypnosis meditation. Um I tend to do if I use only um I don't use any guided hypnosis, I lie down, I put some music, some bineal beats that I can find. Um, something that makes me feel a bit like oh I'm in some different universe, um, and I'm relaxing. Then I do a whole body scan, whole body scan. You know, you lie down and you say to yourself, my feet are now relaxing, my calves are now relaxing, my knees are now relaxing, my thighs are now relaxing, and go on, go on, my shoulders are relaxing. That's the that's the one that you can often see the most that your shoulders just drop, also your jaw, your your face, your head muscles, your back, so your whole body, you go through your whole body, including hands, uh, forearms, arms, so everything. And then once you are for relaxed, you can start focusing, meditating, focusing on your breath. So now here I have a problem. I tend to have very abundant inner life in my head. My gifts are typically in my head, so everything I do with with clients, it's all comes through what's going on in my head, and I know that's that's for example the message I got, not my own imagination, so I work a lot. Um I think uh overthinker, that that's that's what I am overthinker. Um, so I tend to struggle to just think about nothing. So I start imagining stuff, then I'm going talk to some guides. I um sometimes I can see like a tunnel of portals opening, so I'm starting to go up them, um, and this is when the vibrational state starts happening for me. Also, the way it's more like a forceful way. Uh, what I do is imagine myself standing with like touching, holding to pillars, electric pillars. My head is like resting on another electric pillar or something like that, and I'm standing on an electric plate, and I'm imagining being like um almost electrocuted, but you know, without any pain, just that the electricity goes through my body and it works, it works for me. Um, so I think there is your imagination. It might be that because we're all different and have different ways of observing the world. Um, for me, my imagination works because this is how I function. So for me, this works. For you, just you know, um resting, relax, like focusing on your breath can also work. Um, actually, but Jade Shaw also um says about uh visualizations, so it does seem that it does it does really help. So this is where I think I am actually blocked, that my mind is a bit too hasty, too overthinking. So mm when I read a lot of tips how from this vibrational state to leave the body, because then you will have some exit strategies of like moving your eyes one side to another, and faster, faster, faster, woo, and then you just you know go out, or you can read about ladders, ropes. I don't know, nothing really worked for me. Nothing. What worked for me is is this complete stillness, this body, body resting, mind awake. I might be uh slightly changing how it's called, but this is the state that you should be before you want to do astral projections, is the state that your body you just saw completely like in deep hypnosis, stop feeling the body, but your mind is awake, so not falling asleep. So this perfect in between, and this is when I had the most profound feelings of like being pulled up, um, or like sudden emotions um of clarity, like messages, like emotions, clarity regarding certain situations that it felt felt magical is the this this moment in between, and from everything that I um I've read about this is actually I think the simplicity might be the clue. Okay, I know I haven't experienced it fully yet, but intuitively I think that um going into using some music, doing the body scan, focusing on your breath, like you're meditating, or just if you're that good at meditating, just keeping your brain, just your mind just still. And then one thing that I do struggle a little bit looking through your closed eyes, like trying to like when you close your eyes and you try to look through your eyelids without opening your eyes. I keep on slightly opening my eyes doing that. But I I think that's what it takes. It might be even that you don't need to look through your eyelids, it's just this perfect stillness, like meditating, and I must say that I yeah, that that's what I have to work, um work like you know, practice getting my brain still. So I don't every time I start meditating, I don't go immediately, start traveling and and start chatting to to some you know beings or um guides or visiting different rooms that I have in my head because this is what immediately I start doing, so my brain is occupied. So I think that was blocking me. But um also they say that you should let go of any expectation. That that was very difficult at the beginning. With time, I think it's much more doable because your first excitement just wears off a bit, and um that you have to keep still from the observant perspective. I find it then it's when I get vibrational state and I'm I feel the rush of energy or or something happening that might be it, I feel very ecstatic, and this is apparently not helping because you should be very calm and observing everything that's going and like going with it because nothing bad will happen to you, and um that you can you know this is important while while it's when it's happened finally, you can always come back to your body. Actually, apparently, the second you think of your body, this is when you come back, so that's interesting one. So that's why you're you have to be careful to not um you know to not get a bit distracted with thinking about what's going on with your body because that might actually immediately uh put you back if you achieved astropiection or if you were very close to it. Another thing that is very interesting from the it's interesting for me also from the psychological perspective is the um that you can meet more maybe not nasty, maybe not dangerous, scary beings in astral projection world. And what I hear what people are saying that you know studied astral projection is that typically it's parts of you. So the method for that is to you know to stand your ground and say, Why are you here? And the response might be, I'm here because I'm your um unresolved issues with a parent. I'm just making this up, but everything um like anything like that can happen, can pop up, and it actually makes a lot of sense because I have um I have a made-up world in my head. It's actually this one is actually made up in a way, it's made up a good word, it's not any astral plane, it's the visualization of my inner life, and I worked with my psychotherapist a lot on what's going on in there because it's it's actually the mirror, what was going on in my brain, and I do remember that in one of these visualizations in this world, which mostly looks the same, but sometimes new places open up. Um I've met myself but like scary myself, um very looking aggressive, looking terrifying, and at that side of me, it was the embodiment in my you know inner life, in my inner world, of my anxiety, of my fears. And actually, what what really was needed there, it hasn't heard healed or cured my anxiety, but what happened there, what was needed, was to embrace this part of me and send love and acceptance. Because this is this, you know, our shadow, right? So sometimes shadow is not what we think it is. Shad our shadow parts can be um for somebody it can be weakness, right? So we we might we may accept um strength and we may think oh we accept ourselves fully because I know I have a temper, I'm working on it, but do I accept it that I am like that? But then I don't accept myself because I don't accept weakness, I don't accept myself in vulnerable position, right? I know it. I'm saying a bit from the from my own experience here, I won't lie. And then you would think, oh, but the shadow part of you should be this this this dark, you know, aggressive energy of temper, not sweet, vulnerable side. But no, no, no, this is this is the part that is unaccepted. This is the part that requires you to embrace it, and if you don't embrace it, it will it can cause different types of um issues with your um with your psyche or or psychosomatic issues. So I think in this it which is very interesting because astral projection shouldn't be taking you to your inner world, it should be taking you to the astral planes which are available to everyone, but actually you can meet some of your own creations. But also at the same time, when you think about it, you are also supposed to be able to create an astral plane to be more like in control, in power. So maybe this is where it's coming from that actually this power, this this part of you that is a creator, maybe this is where you um you can be creating from different parts of you. Um I heard somebody say, or maybe I read it, but I somebody said that um you are taking you are going into astral projection with whatever you like, however, you are. So if you have your own issues, the issues may manifest in the astral projection, which is fascinating. So that is my view on Astra projection. I put together things that I like I think are very useful from what I read online or listened online, so you can give it a go. Um additional thing is the guided meditation. So because my brain likes to be busy, I do find it easier to follow and to get very very relaxed with the guided hypnosis. You can find them on YouTube for free as a starting point. I won't say that they will immediately take you out of your body, but could be a good starting point. So, yeah, so that that's my overview. These are my tips, and I am still trying. And if that happens to me, I will let you know. There will be a part two, or if I do some huge progress, or I read something, or I read something that is a game changer, I will let you know, and then um I will put it in the part two, and there will be a follow-up. But for now, I think this is it, and um, I wish you amazing adventures on the on your astro journeys or amazing adventure to try to get to the astro journey. Thank you so much, and hear you soon. Bye!